Musings About Naturism and Religion

Musings About Naturism and Religion

This is one of those subjects which we’ve been trying to avoid during all those years of blogging. The combination of naturism or nudism and religion. The reason for this is that it’s such a difficult subject to take a stand. There’s no right or wrong. There’s no proof to rely on. It’s all just about ideas, beliefs and opinions. And it can be seen from so many different angles. Is it possible for naturism and religion to go hand in hand? Or does one automatically exclude the other? And who gets to decide about that? The naturists? The Christians or Muslims or Buddhists? God?

 

We have to stress that there’s a very important word in the title of this blog post: “Musings”. What you’ll be reading here are nothing but musings. Thoughts and ideas. Don’t expect the ultimate proof that naturism and religion do go together. Or just not. You won’t find it here. But we do think that it’s an interesting subject to muse about. Maybe this blog might even help you on your spiritual way in finding the right answers.

Naturism and religion

The bible fight

The idea to write this post existed for quite some time, but recently got triggered by a discussion which got started on our blog post about the biggest fears of beginning nudists. Long story short, Andrew (a long time Naked Wanderings follower) had seen “the light” and turned against us. Telling our other readers not to listen to our “false teachings” because God doesn’t want anyone to be a nudist.

 

Some quotes from the bible were thrown in to prove his point. Soon someone else jumped into the conversation with other biblical quotes, proving that God DOES support nudism. This discussion then moved to Instagram and continued there for a bit. And we just wondered what happened. What had happened to this guy so that from one day to another he didn’t just turn his back towards nudism but also made it his goal to demonize nudism and naturism. Had he seen a Netflix series about Christianity? Read a certain book about it? Went to a different church or did God appear to him personally? We don’t know.

Naturism and religion

What does the bible say?

What we do know now is that the bible isn’t exactly clear about whether naturism is actually good or evil. It starts with the early beginnings. With Adam and Eve. Who were created in God’s own image and God saw that what he had made was very good. This all sounds quite pro-nudity if you ask us. But then came the apple incident. Why did Eve bite the apple? Did all that liberty get into her head and did she think she could do whatever she wanted in Eden? Or was she all “yeah, whatever”, like we’ve acted towards the good advice of our own parents so many times?

 

It’s not very clear to us. What we do know is that she got punished and her boyfriend as well. Not with extra chores or an earlier bedtime. But with shame. No more running around in the nude. The main question in this story is whether that bite in the apple was such a horrible thing to do that it was worth to punish Adam and Eve and every human being after them? Or whether God realized that the nudity was a mistake and quickly corrected it.

Naturism and religion

What do we know about God?

The thing is, we’re not particularly religious. That’s another reason why we’ve never written about this subject before. We happen to be born in a Christian country and were baptized because that’s what everyone did. Over the years we’ve learned a thing or two about religion and that’s about it. So we don’t judge. We just try to ask questions.

 

For example, when God created the universe. Did he (or she?) create it from beginning to end? Meaning that all that still has to come is just part of the master plan? Or did he just create version 1.0 with Adam and Eve in Eden and was everything that followed out of God’s control?

 

Both cases actually seem positive for naturism. If God created everything that has been and everything that yet has to come, God also created naturism. Then God made us take those first steps into naturism, made us start Naked Wanderings and made Andrew comment on it. Maybe for the sole reason that we could write this blog post.

 

In the other case, when God didn’t have a clue what would happen next, it could both be that he thinks that naturism is a good or a bad thing. We’ll never know. And it makes no sense to rely on the bible for this. How can we use a 2000-year-old script to judge a lifestyle which isn’t more than 100 years old? How could the evangelists ever consider naturism as a concept or lifestyle when they wrote the bible?

Naturism and religion

Clothing and religion

Nevertheless, it’s a fact that clothing is an important aspect in religion. People put on their best clothes to go to church. Some religions even have a specific dress that is to be worn uniquely in their places of worship. Sometimes it’s not allowed to wear this or that in a church or mosque or temple. Like shoes or shorts or a baseball cap. In Islam, clothes are used specifically to cover certain female body parts. Buddhist are supposed to dress sober. And so on.

 

A very interesting mix of social nudity and religion is found with the Hindus in Bali. Nudity doesn’t seem anything that’s frowned upon at all. People bathe naked in the rivers together, right next to the road where they can be seen by everyone passing by. Several temples have communal bathing areas where people would shower together before the ceremonies. Because of the lack of plumbing, some villages even have one communal bathing area. The important aspect here is that all this social nudity comes with a specific purpose: Getting yourself cleaned. If you get caught naked in Bali for recreational purposes like nude sunbathing on the beach or naked hiking, you can be thrown in jail for years.

Naturism and religion

Will naturism and religion ever go together?

The good news is, they already go together. We have seen a lot of proof of that. In naturist resorts in Thailand we’ve met Christians, Hindus and Muslims. All having a great nude time together without any of their Gods interfering. In the USA we found books about the link between naturism and Christianity. There are large Christian naturist communities like the Christian Naturists, the Naturist Christians and the Christian Naturist Fellowship.

 

In naturism, belief doesn’t matter. The main question is, does naturism matter in your belief? Do you think it interferes with your religion?
Personally, our freedom is very valuable to us. And so is our right to make our own choices. We will always prefer a lifestyle that allows us the most freedom and choices. In naturism it doesn’t matter which God we believe in. Or if we believe in any God at all. It doesn’t matter which politicians we vote for, which hobbies we practice or which other lifestyles we engage in. In naturism, we return to our pure selves. To purity in general. Or dare we say… to Eden?

26 thoughts on “Musings About Naturism and Religion

  1. Interesting! I’m a Catholic Christian and a Naturist of many years. I pray naked as I think God can see us under our clothes and I feel it makes me closer to God. I like a naked lifestyle as I consider that God made me but man made clothes. So this is my mantra: To be Naked is to be Yourself, to be Naked in Nature is to be at Peace with the World.

  2. Early Christians were baptised in the nude, probably both for practical purposes and symbolic ones. Practically, most people didn’t own more than one set of clothing, and you would need to walk around naked or near naked all day to dry it off after washing it. Symbolically, it represented the death of the old self and the birth of the new, since we’re born naked. And the early Roman Christians in Paul’s churches would have likely exercises at gymnasiums, which were all nude facilities again for practical reasons and symbolic ones.

    When I’ve told Christians this they lose their minds because they can’t decouple the shame they feel about nudity and actual history, which was far more tolerant, like Indians, of at least incidental nudity.

    Also on the subject of Adam and Eve, theoretically God doesn’t make mistakes in Christian thinking, so it’s impossible for him to have judged nudity as good and then change his mind. Therefore, the bread explanation for Adam and Eve’s shame is that, since they were created in the image of God but had now betrayed him, they were ashamed to even see his image in themselves because they weren’t good enough to deserve it anymore, so they hid it under clothing.

    Then, when God gives them animal skins, it’s not a mandate to wear clothes but a message that indeed, you will no longer get to live in my nice climate controlled garden and will have to suffer cold and heat. Here’s a jacket. Enjoy winter!

  3. Actually Mike, If your read the book of Genesis God did make clothing, not man. see Genesis 3:21 “The LORD God made garments of skin for Adam and his wife and clothed them.” I’m a Catholic also and live a nude life at home and in our private backyard. However I am not a social nudist for this would then be moving into territory that is reserved for married couples only.

  4. Very interesting and touchy topic! From my Christian standpoint, nudity in itself is not a sin when practiced with non-sexual intent. However, I’ve also read arguments that it should not be practiced because even though the person practicing it can mean no harm, it is prone to promoting lust in our brothers and sisters. They liken it to drinking alcohol around an alcoholic. Since Christianity teaches us that we are our brother’s keepers, we should therefore strive to lead them away from sin. Since we know that most people today can’t separate nudity from sex, then we are contributing to the lust of others by being openly nude, and thus sinning ourselves. The other issue is that anyone that’s been a nudist long enough knows that not all people that claim to be pure nudists actually are. There are many hidden (and open) swingers, exhibitionists, and voyeurs amongst us. I would even argue that a majority of nudists fall into one of those categories, whether they realize or admit it. For example, I’m a nudist. I enjoy being nude whenever practical, alone or socially. But I’d be lying if I said that I don’t get curious when seeing others nude. I, of course, follow etiquette and avert my eyes whenever possible. But I definitely sneak glances at other’s butts/breasts/genitals when I can do it unnoticed. I don’t get an erection and I’m not doing it for sexual pleasure, but I guess that puts me in the voyeur category. There’s just something intriguing about seeing parts of people that you typically never see. With that being said, am I sinning when I look? If I’m not doing it for arousal, then what makes it any different than checking out someone’s body when they’re clothed? Did Adam appreciate looking at Eve’s body before it became shameful? Did Eve enjoy Adam’s appreciation of her body? We will never know. So it all comes down to intent for me. I don’t practice nudism intending to arouse others or to arouse myself.

    1. Not too long ago we’ve written a blog post about enjoying to watch and/or to be seen within nudism. It’s something that happens. And, as you say, as long as you’re not bothering others with it, we don’t see anything wrong. People check each other out in daily life all the time. It’s perfectly normal to have a glance at the shape of someone’s butt or breasts on the street or in a supermarket. This doesn’t change when you’re at a nudist place.

      Do we need to cover up to not lead others into temptation? Even though we’re not particularly religious, we also believe that we should help others where possible. But not at the expense of our own freedom. Otherwise, we would end up in an extreme situation where we don’t buy a car so we don’t lead possible carjackers into temptation. Or forbid lighters and matches to save the souls of the pyromaniacs.

      We believe that the most important thing is consent. Everyone at a nudist place knows that there will be naked people. If you don’t like it or can’t handle it, then don’t go.

  5. I was raised in a very strict Mennonite culture where dress was of extreme importance. As I grew older I had a major porn problem and wanted to get free of it. I came across two websites that helped me with getting free of the the porn. One was http://www.mychainsaregone.org and the other was http://www.thebiblicalnaturist.blogspot.com. I had tried many other ways to be free of porn that Christians told me would work. None of them did and I would be back to struggling again. Both of these websites helped me not only to be free of porn, but also what the Bible really says about being naked or seeing others naked, and that the body is not strictly sexual. The peace and freedom I experience now is incredible. Maybe the person you mentioned above should read these to help with his negative view.

    1. Thanks for sharing your story Grant. And it’s absolutely true, there’s a big difference between sex and nudity. One is a state of dress while the other is a state of mind. Unfortunately, it often takes a nudist to understand this.

  6. I can wholeheartedly second Grant’s recommendations about The Biblical Naturist and My Chains are Gone.

    I think the discussions on those web sites would help clarify for Phil and others the issues around being a stumbling block for others.

    Words change in meaning and usage over time. The word “lust” is one such word. Not all lust is sinful. The Bible says that Jesus lusted to have the last supper with the disciples. Check out the words in the original language. Sinful lust is the desire to possess something that is not rightfully yours. I can appreciate my neighbour’s house/new car/wife without lusting after them. I can appreciate them without desiring to possess them for myself, and they depriving my neighbour of his rightful enjoyment of them.

    You wrote “What we do know is that she got punished and her boyfriend as well. Not with extra chores or an earlier bedtime. But with shame”. I wonder where you got the idea the Adam and Eve were ashamed. It is not in the Bible. The Bible says they were afraid. Shame seems to be something what was imposed on the passage much later, for cultural rather than Biblical reasons.

    Where scripture speaks negatively about nakedness, it is not talking about simple, voluntary social nakedness; rather it references involuntary forced nakedness as was imposed on captives taken in battle or those too poor to feed or clothe themselves.

    In 1 Timothy 2:9, the word modest does not relate to how much skin is exposed, but to how much bling was being worn. It relates to rich new female believers from Ephesus showing off their wealth and lauding it over others. The only reference I am aware of in scripture to how much skin may be exposed is in reference to the male priest’s genitals not being exposed as they climbed the stairs in the temple.

    Admittedly, it would scandalize many Christians to think of Jesus taking on the form of a servant and washing the feet of the disciples wearing only a towel over His shoulder or to realize that Jesus was mistaken for the gardener outside the tomb because he was naked as the gardener would have been. His grave clothes were still in the tomb and He did not yet have His glorified body. See John 20.

    Different Bible translations use different words for several reasons: 1 because the English language is constantly changing and it is easier for contemporary readers to read contemporary language, 2 to avoid copyright infringement on another translation, 3 to make the translation as acceptable to as wide a cultural audience as possible, so it will sell and make money for the publisher, and 4 because the new words reflect a better understanding of the original languages and context. The KJV translates the same Hebrew word as “naked” on 40 occasions where the NIV translators have chosen to translate the same Hebrew word with a different English word not implying complete nudity. Why? I would suggest cultural sensitivity and political correctness play a role.

    The biggest conflict I see between Naturism and Christianity has nothing to do with details, but with Naturism being a philosophical and world view that is at odds with Christianity as a world view. Naturism as I have seen it described is man’s attempt to live in harmony with nature and other human beings. It makes no reference to, is not dependent on and makes no claims regarding sin and redemption. Christianity is the story of mankind’s redemption from sin by the grace of a loving God. In that context, social nudity is a minor incidental footnote. However, in our culture where the pornographic view of the human body is rampant, nudity has become burdened with negative associations that one doesn’t find in the Bible.

    1. Thanks a lot for this very extensive comment Han!
      About the shame, it’s something we’ve read: Isaiah 47:3 your nakedness will be exposed and your shame uncovered.
      As mentioned in the post, we have no deep knowledge at all about religion. We just try to connect some strings. Strings that maybe shouldn’t be connected. Anyway, that’s why these are just musings.

      We didn’t really think about the copy issues when writing this post, but we definitely agree that translations, copyright and culture most have been very determining during the translations and copies of the bible. Of course, we see this as another reason why it’s probably impossible to find reasons in the bible to approve or condemn nudism.

  7. The Isaiah reference is not to voluntary nudity, but to nudity being imposed by another. In this case it is reflective of Babylon personified being reduced from a queen to a servant and prostitute with no one to rescue her.

  8. De Bijbel kent in het OT twee woorden voor naakt, het ene als met Adam en Eva, het andere verwijzend naar de sexuele daad.

    In datzelfde deel zien we ook naakte profeten (Jesaja) en de opmerking dat Saul ook een profeet zou zijn, naakt onder de profeten. In het NT ook naakte discipelen, naakte dopeling, enz.

    In dat NT mag je niet naakt cq zonder witte kleren gaan, echter verwijzend naar de doop in Christus en geestelijke geloofszaken. Niet naar echte kleding.

    God schiep de mens naakt en voordat de mens fout ging en daarom met kleren diens schaamte wilde verhullen en vlees wilde ook daarom… Naakt zonder kleding is goed in Gods Ogen. Heel anders is het met naakt verwijzend naar de sexuele daad…

  9. This is a good topic. My wife and I have gotten into the nudist/naturist lifestyle a few years ago. After our first experience at nude resort, I found myself curious as to why I did not feel guilty of doing anything wrong. My wife and I are Christians and that is a very important part of our lives, but the freedom to be nude in a social environment was freeing, it felt so normal.

    I found myself researching the Bible and questioning if it is “sinful” to be nude socially with other people. I guess I was looking for an “eleventh commandment”, Thou shalt not be nude except with your spouse. Its just not there in the Bible. I did more research online and found a few writings, articles, books and websites that pertained to Christianity and nudity. Grant and Han has named a couple, but there are a few more, and after much time reading and referring to scripture, I feel that nudity in a social environment is not wrong, as long as there is no adulterous or sinful sexual activity going on. I agree with your comment that nudity does not equal sex. Unfortunately, our culture and society have brainwashed us to believe that.

    Han’s comments were spot on and I can agree with his words. Just another point in regards to Genesis and the fall of man with Adam and Eve. Obviously satan (the serpent) tempted Eve to eat of the forbidden fruit because he had already played that hand. When satan was created, he was one of the highest angels, a beautiful angel, in fact, the Bible says he was covered with precious stones and jewels. That is the difference, satan was covered and man was not. Man was made in image of God (Genesis 1:26). Satan was cast out of heaven, in Genesis 3 we find the account of the fall of man. Satan tempted Eve to eat the fruit, that she would not die, Eve took a bite, gave it to Adam to eat and we know the rest. Here is the point I am getting to. People think/believe that Adam and Eve felt shame and covered themselves and because of that, we cannot be naked because of the shame. No where in the Bible is that mentioned. In fact if you read Genesis 3:11, God asks Adam “who told you you were naked?” There is a previous comment that God made garments out of animal skins for Adam and Eve. People will have different views or interpretations of this event. I am not one to argue ones convictions or interpretations, but I believe that 1. it is a prophetic event that is a precursor to Moses and laws pertaining to sacrifices for atonement of sins, and then ultimately Jesus being the final sacrifice. It is the shedding of blood to cover sins, and 2. it is for provision. Now Adam and Eve were cursed to die, and for their disobedience, woman was going to have to endure child bearing pains, and man was going to have to work the ground for food. They were being driven out of Eden, which had to be a perfect climate to live. Not to hot, not to cold, no bug bites, rashes, etc. Now they were being driven away to areas with thorns and thistles, heat and cold. You have to ask yourself, if Adam and Eve were still the only people on Earth, why would they need to be ashamed of being naked in front of each other? They have been around each other naked since they were created, why now are they ashamed? How can it be good to be naked one minute and bad the next? This just does not make sense.

    This is a longer post than I expected to write, but one idea that I have came up with is that we have to consider the culture at time Bible was written. Nakedness for various reasons was more common than we may realize. You just have to read and go further in studying those passages to understand more fully, and not necessarily assume what you have been taught.

  10. Wes raises some good points. I would caution that just because something feels good or comfortable, that is not sufficient to Biblically justify something.

    On a different topic, the biggest problem I have with the “God killed animals to provide clothing and that is a precursor of atonement sacrifices” interpretation is that in atonement sacrifices it is the one in need of atonement/forgiveness that sheds the blood of the sacrifice. God does not do it on their behalf. Further, it is an assumption that God killed animals to obtain the skins. He could just as easily have created them ready-to-wear. Scripture doesn’t give evidence either way.

    For those who think nudity between anyone other than husband and wife is sinful, I would ask a few questions.
    1) If God clothed Adam and Eve when they were the only ones around, on what Biblical basis is it now okay for husbands and wives to see each other naked?
    2) Where is the Biblical exception for parents to see infants or children naked?
    3)Where is the Biblical exception for doctors and nurses to see patients naked, especially those of the opposite sex?
    4) Where is the Biblical exception for children caring for aging parents (dressing them, bathing them, etc.) to see them naked or exposed?

    These may all be reasonable exceptions, but the issue is not reasonableness, but Biblical endorsement for the exceptions if you hold the understanding that nudity other than between spouses is prohibited or sinful.

  11. For Catholics, a recent Pope answered the question:

    Pope John Paul II said, “The human body can remain nude and uncovered and preserve intact its splendor and its beauty… Nakedness as such is not to be equated with physical shamelessness… Immodesty is present only when nakedness plays a negative role with regard to the value of the person…The human body is not in itself shameful… Shamelessness (just like shame and modesty) is a function of the interior of a person.”

    I think this pronouncement is general enough to apply to all, not just Catholics, but each person must decide for themselves. Whatever the decision, though, that’s not grounds for imposing it on others – it only applies to yourself.

    1. I would agree. If in faith you can be nude, do so. If you have doubts, the don’t do it. Whatsoever is not of faith is sin. Romans 14:23.

  12. LOL this has to be the craziest blog yet hah.
    I have no idea who said what to whom, and where, but as many times before stated by me , ill say it again .. who is the one that decides whats wrong and whats not ,and with what rights?
    Ppl say ,scientists, lawmakers ect .. why? Who are they? Gods? Owners of others?
    We`ve all grown up knowing that this is “wrong” and that isnt .. but did anyone ever ask us? Why do we take for granted whats already been decided by someone, and why are we freaks or sick or crazy if we wanna think differently and say hey .. why is this wrong? Cause everyone has been indocrinated since day 1 to accept things the way they are today?
    These are all the things that happen when ppl wanna create a community.. then everyone has to “obey” ,cause if not?!… u know the rest..
    Adam and Eve mentioned so many times.. but ,if we really wanna believe, does that mean that God is cool with incest?
    Really, we all know we`be been shaped the way someone, i still woudlnt know who tho, and why.. but.. we all know that being gay was considered as being ill, having mental problems.. same for trans ect .. now, its considered totaly fine and as nothing wrong, still those same doctors/scientists consider many other things as illness and disorder, so how come its like this today, and tomorrow its like that?
    How come back in the 50s doctors were promoting cigarettes ,as something good and healthy ,eventho im sure they all knew it wasnt.. how come Manattan today is the total opposite of how it looked in the 70s ..
    So again, the point is, who gets to decide, and with what rights, what is good or bad, wrong or not, legal or illegal.

  13. The title is just a big propaganda!

    There is right and wrong. And there are proofs and evidences.
    You don’t have the right to mislead people and say what there is or what there is not!

    Science is proving God and His words, therefore we all can look into the subject and see which one of those above is really the words of God. And after you’ve done it, you will see that God has forbidden for people to get naked, but encouraged to get covered. There are parts of male body that females must not see, and same for the females. The exception is the husband and the wife, which leads to a healthy mental lifestyle

    When you look at more guidance of God’s , you see that wearing a thigh clothing results the abjection , and being covered results in dignity

  14. Being “afraid because you are naked” describes to me the feeling of shame. I am not a deeply religious person and I do not personally believe that Genesis is a record of events, more an allegorical story to help explain a moral viewpoint to us. Here’s what I read: Satan was the angel cast aside by God and he was jealous of God’s relationship with man. After all man’s body was created in God’s image and man was unashamed of that body. So Satan lured them into eating from the tree of knowledge knowing that it would bring them shame of their bodies and so separate them from God. Shame was not a punishment: just the result of choosing separation from God. God made them clothes to cover their bodies against the harsh environment outside Eden, not to cover their shame. So what I read is that shame is the devil’s work, and to get closer to God you should not accept that shame and instead be respectful of the naked body as it is created in God’s image. Wear clothes to protect your body, but not to cover shame. That’s naturism, isn’t It?

  15. Hello, brethren. A very nice mixture of doctrine. Great thoughts abound among you. To Mr. Wiz I might suggest he read James 1: 12-16. Especially verse 13. It states: “Let no man say when he is tempted, I am tempted of God: for God cannot be tempted with evil, neither tempteth He any man:” We are all created in His image. If we lust after anything or anyone, who is the sinner? He that lusts or the object of the person’s lust? Nudity in the Bible is a non-issue. God never commanded man to wear clothing. Yes, He made us clothing to shield from a cursed land outside of the Garden of Eden. Man hide himself from God not because he was naked. He was like a child that had disobeyed his Father. When asked why he was hiding, he made an excuse that immediately let God know that his true sin was disobedience. Who would gain to profit from making man fearful of the image of his own Creator. Sounds like those that follow the thoughts that their Divine Creator’s greatest gift outside of our Eternal Salvation through Jesus Christ our Lord, is dirty, nasty, lustful, and cannot be seen by everyone is following the path of Satan or at the very least man himself, not God. After we were created, God said that it was very good. I will not pretend to dispute the Lord God on that statement. He doesn’t change His mind as some would allow you to think. But making another observation, when God was making His covenant with Abraham, He told him to circumcise all his male brethren so that all would know the great nation of Israel. Did they walk around lifting up their robes to strangers saying, “Hi, as you can see, I’m from Israel.” I doubt that. The loom was centuries away from being invented. People didn’t have a closet full of clothes even in Jesus’ time. When you worked, be it as a gardener, carpenter, smithy, fisherman, or any other task, it was most likely done in the nude so as not to destroy perhaps the only piece of clothing you could afford. Nudity back then was a non-issue. As far as lust goes, I can look upon a pretty woman and appreciate her beauty as I would when watching a lovely crane flying over a still lake near sunset or watching the sun come up over a mountain top or across a vast ocean. Lust is captured in your heart, mind, body, and soul. The sin of lust is how you deal with it in your own spirit! God has created nothing for you to lust after. Jesus was very firm when He told us about lust. Always admire the beauty that God has given us, my friends! And please don’t read into scripture what isn’t there. God always wanted us to be happy on this Earth. Enjoy your precious, fleeting time here and prepare for the great adventure to come with our Savior and our Heavenly Father.

  16. God decides what is right, and what is wrong. He told us exactly what He expects of us. Recorded in Exodus 20, generally called the ten commandments.
    One of them is generally ignored by most Christians, the one that states “the seventh day is the sabbath……” Tradition takes it’s place and the first day is observed instead. Jesus said “in vain do ye worship me, teaching for doctrine the commandments of men.” Tradition? if it crosses with the Word is the command of men altering God’s word. Which is why I chose to observe the seventh day, not the first. But in respect to wearing clothes or not. The only thing God’s word says about it is in Genesis 2, when it was clearly God’s plan that we live and work naked full time. Which only got interrupted when sin happened and clothing became necessary for comfort. Then Isa 20 where God commanded Isaiah to go round naked for 3 years to reinforce a message he was to proclaim. Would God command his man to do something that was morally wrong? While He did tell Abraham to kill his son once as a test, and a lesson, He didn’t allow him to go through with it. But since he didn’t stop Isaiah from going through with being a naturist preacher, I have to conclude it was not a moral crime to be naked publicly.

    Then there’s my own personal experience. I came up in life becoming addicted to lust. And that lust was triggered by and and directed toward nudity. For the longest time I couldn’t figure out how it happened, but it was so strong I couldn’t defeat it no matter how hard I tried. I prayed against it and fought it for years. No luck, it just kept coming back. I finally started praying to God in a different way. “I give up, You’re going to have to clean up my mind, I can’t do it.” Very soon after starting that prayer, the aspect of naturism was brought to my attention. How by getting accustomed to being naked and being around others naked, the nakedness becomes a normal part of life and the lust connection gets broken. I started doing it intentionally, and it worked. The lust tie to nudity started weakening and finally went away. Wow! the cure for the lust issue is the original Eden lifestyle of nude living! I never would have dreamed it. I now know that God did it right the first time when he made Adam and Eve naturist gardeners and intended we live that way for all time. The garments he gave them later had to have been strictly for warmth in the cool of the day, necessary after they left the perfectly controlled Eden atmosphere. And so when professed Christians fight against nude living, they fight against the very thing that would put a halt to what they want to stop.
    Oh the devil is tricky, he gets christians to help him out in his work of deception and corruption of our morals, by being so short sighted as to think the original Eden way of life is now a moral crime and fighting against it.
    And that made me come to the realization what it was that got me started in the lust over nude thing to start with. It was the complete lack of open nudity in my family in childhood and teen years. My mother thought naked was all lust and very studiously avoided it. My father went along with it. So I never saw anyone nude that I can remember, other than a baby. The lack of common nudity in life backfired on me and blew up into a lust addiction tied to it. So I’m now a confirmed dedicated Christian naturist, with aspirations to return to Eden. After all; returning to Eden life is what the whole plan of salvation is about implemented by Jesus Christ. And we think one significant aspect of that life is evil? the naked living part. What are we thinking? Stupid idea.

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